Narrow Boat Insurance Roundup!

Photo © Dr Neil Clifton (cc-by-sa/2.0)
Narrowboat graveyard, Northwich, Cheshire Photo © Dr Neil Clifton (cc-by-sa/2.0)

In the social media I see lots of NB owners asking for recommendations for insurance, so being new to this I searched around in the magazines and via google for companies that I could try.

I was not looking for the cheapest insurance, but a company that made me feel  that I was going to be looked after if the worst thing happened and I needed to make a claim. I also wanted to know what I was being covered for, over the years we have spent a lot on insurance, sometimes to find that we where not as covered as we had hoped, while other times we had been pleasantly surprised how well things have been handled.

Mostly we take out insurance and have not had to use it, it just makes us legal and feel that our investment is protected.

The basic spec of our boat is as follows:-

Boat Name Floydtilla (was Chloe)
Builder Probuild
Fit-Out Black Prince
Year 2007 (First Hired 2008)
Length 62 ft
CRT  516812
Engine 42hp Diesel
Marina Yes

I am interested to see what different companies offer to differentiate themselves from the rest and we will see what tempts me the most.

NOTE: While every effort has been taken to keep this as accurate as possible it is not always possible to directly compare these quotes, I am just reporting what I understood from the research we did.

This was all done online over a few of days in March 2021 .

Mercia Marine insurance

Mercia marine was recommended to us by Black Prince as this was the company they used, and whom we purchased the boat from.

Compared to many of the other sites I visited this one provided so much information, it looked a little text heavy and dated, but I would rather have more info than be left in the dark.

I completed the online form, which asked if I was to use the boat single handed, and as I suspect that may happen I answered yes, this then required a member of staff to review my quote before they sent it out.

When I got the email with the quote it was a little higher that expected at £308.52 pa. They provided a cost breakdown when I logged into the site

QUADRANT COMPREHENSIVE COVER (£3m liability) £246.07
MARINE LEGAL PROTECTION (non-refundable, unless within 14 days) £16.00
INSURANCE PREMIUM TAX (at 12 %) £31.45
POLICY ADMIN FEE (non-refundable) £15.00
TOTAL £308.52

I checked the nice “Boat Insurance Glossary” on their website and could find no mention of “MARINE LEGAL PROTECTION” or “QUADRANT COMPREHENSIVE COVER” who I assumed is the insurance company.

So I emailed back asking for more information and to see how flexible they are on their quote. The response a few days later basically was that the quote was the best they could do at present.

Insurer Quote Excess
Mercia Marine Insurance £308.52 annual £150

Insure4Boats®  (Ripe Insurance Services Limited)

This site had a very simple form to complete, almost no additional details asked before the quote was generated.

Insurer Quote Excess
Insure4Boats £13.46 p/m   £161.55 annual £200

Cover was up to £3 million with an option to increase to £5 million with increased the premium to £16.30 p/m  or £195.55 annual.

Adding frost or freezing again increased this to £17.00 p/m  or £204.01 annual.

I did not click on the option for physical loss or damage caused by war, strikes, terrorism and associated risks as this, I hope, seems unlikely in the UK at the moment.

Next came an option to cover the contents with a max single item of £1000 and limits on portable electronic equipment, mobile phones and bicycles.

There was also a option to enter a value for the total contents, It is not clear  if this means  just personal items, and not fixtures and fitting, so I added £1000 and our final premium came to

Insurer Quote Excess
InsuranceInsure4Boats £17.99 p/m   £215.91 annual £200

Before I left the site, I had the option to email myself the quote for later purchase.

Compare Boat Insurance

I started with the first result on a google search for “narrowboat insurance” which just happened to be a comparison service/broker.

The website is nice and simple no real surprise question, this site does all sorts of boat insurance, but after selecting narrowboat the questions in most part seem appropriate.

After entering my details they came back with 5 quotes from 4 suppliers and noted that 13 providers were unable to quote.

A little bit of research on the site showed that prime was also MS Amlin.

Insurer Quote Excess
towergate insurance £14.62 p/m   £156.91 annual £100

prime 

£23.35 p/m   £249.31 annual £300
geo/specialty (Pleasure Craft) £25.48 p/m   £272.00 annual £125
MS Amlin £25.69 p/m   £274.23 annual £150
MS Amlin
Promo Offer: Legal cover included as standard
£26.82 p/m   £286.23 annual £150

All the results offered ‘FULL’ cover of between £3 and £5 million, the cheapest towergate insurance was significantly cheaper than the rest at this point, none of the others offered any additional items that could be used to differentiate themselves from the rest from what I could ascertain from the website.

After about 10 minutes of asking for the quotes, I had a call from a very pleasant  young lady who wanted to check I had everything I needed.

craftinsure

craftinsure quotes
craftinsure quotes

This site has one of the simplest quotation systems I have used, just four questions.

    1. Boat Value?
    2. Year of construction?
    3. Claims in the last 3 years (0,1,2 3+)
    4. Proof of no claims (Y/N)

You then have to Agree/disagree to a short agreement that covers things like boat construction (Fibreglass, Aluminium or Steel), that it for private use only and is not over 80ft long etc etc etc non of which seemed onerous.

I was then presented with two possible quotes with links to email the quote or to read sample documents.

Insurer Quote Excess
craftinsure £155.23 annual £200
craftinsure £117.04 annual £400

Haven Knox Johnston

This company I came across in Waterways World Annual 2021 as they had a full page advert.

I visited the website address and clicked on the link to Narrowboat insurance and  then the “Get a quote” button, and completed a simple online form. I expected to be asked a few more questions, but no, it seems they will contact me for more details…

A working day later, I got an email asking for lots more information none of it complicated, I am sure this could have been done as an online form when I sent in my initial request, but they did respond, and a few days later we got a package in the post.

The package was very comprehensive with lots of information, the quote was £223.78 for £50,000 Hull, Machinery, Gear and Equipment and £3m third party liability. We could add Marine Legal Protection cover as an option for an additional £13.72

I really liked the All Weather Insurance – Insurance Product Information Document as this outlined what was and was not covered by the policy so there should be no confusion.

Insurer Quote Excess
MS Amlin Insurance SE £223.78 Annual plus extra  £13.72 for MLP £150

GJW Direct

This is another insurance company I found in Waterways World, they have an interesting tag line “The UK’s Largest Direct Boat Insurer”. and from what I had seen in social media posts this was the one most often recommended.

The website seemed to ask appropriate questions for the owner of a narrow boat

The final quote included

    • £25,000 Legal cover
    • £5m Third Party Cover
    • £20,000 Personal Accident
    • River Canal Rescue

The River Canal Rescue is a good added benefit, and not one I had seen so far and covers

    • Nationwide breakdown assistance and recovery
    • 24-hour practical and technical telephone assistance
    • Crisis coordination and message relay service
    • Homestart and provision pick-up service
    • Free WaterNav App for navigation
    • SOS app to keep you updated when you breakdown

You can read a pdf that explains the cover provided

Looking at the RCR website, this offer is about £65 in value and would be equivalent to the Retainer level of membership

Insurer Quote Excess
GJW Direct £220.50 annual or
10 X £22.05 Payments
£100

Newton Crum Insurance

This site had a comprehensive form that needed completion, they will then contact you via your selected preference with a quotation.

We will see what happens, I asked to be contacted by email.

In the post the next day I received a letter? from Newton Crum, which outlined the cover as follows

    • £5m Third Party Indemnity
    • £5000 Emergency (Dr/Surgeon/Hospital fees)
    • £47,500 Craft with its gear and equipment
    • £1000 for Personal effects

The annual prices offered all depended on the amount of the Excess you were willing to accept :-

Insurer Quote Excess
Newton Crum Insurance £97.00 annual £500
Newton Crum Insurance £108.00 annual £300
Newton Crum Insurance £119.00 annual £250
Newton Crum Insurance £140.00 annual £200
Newton Crum Insurance £160.00 annual £150
Newton Crum Insurance £190.00 annual £100

For an additional £1.00 we could add £25,000 Marine Legal Protection that covers us for agreed legal & associated fees to enable the owner to pursue uninsured loss or injury.

Also for an additional £4.00 for Marina Benefit, which waives the basic excess when the craft is in its home marina berth.

The letter also included a sample policy and a check list to help compare with other quotes and finally a Quotation Acceptance Form to complete and a addressed envelope.

I liked this one, lots of information, but posted not emailed, but you cannot have everything and being posted I did read it all.

Westfield Sub Aqua & Marine Insurance Services Ltd

Completed yet another online form and we now wait for a quotation. a working day later, we get two emails from Westfield, the first one is for £ 172.70 which is followed 12 minutes later by a “Corrected ” one for £ 208.58. While neither quote is out of the ball park and errors do happen, this does not inspire me with confidence. So we won’t be taking this one any further at the moment.

Insurer Quote Excess
Westfield £ 208.58 annual £125

Which one do we select and why

While none of the companies we used to get our quotes provided the perfect result, the ones I like best from reading their websites and the information they provided by post and email was Newton Crum InsuranceMercia Marine insurance, GJW Direct and Haven Knox-Johnston.

Insurer Quote Excess
Newton Crum Insurance £160.00 annual + £1.00 MLP
+£4 Marina Benefit
£150.00
Mercia Marine insurance £308.52 annual
Inc’d £16.00 MLP and £15 admin fee
£150.00
GJW Direct £220.50 annual £100.00
Haven Knox-Johnston £223.78 annual  + £13.72 MLP £150.00

I would be happy with any of these for our insurance, they all provided useful information, it now just comes down to personal choice.

Our final choice was Haven Knox-Johnston, but it was close between these four.

 

Working on the tilla bearings and weed hatch

In our pre-purchase survey Tom Keeling recommended the following:-

    1. The propeller is damaged and should be dressed (A)
    2. There was some play apparent in the stern tube bearing at the time of survey; this should be further investigated and the worn or damaged components replaced (P)
    3. Descale and repaint the weedhatch, including the trunk faces and seal faces. Replace the seal (A)
Working on the tilla and weed hatch
Working on the tilla and weedhatch

Note the paint at the back has also been tidied up.

Welding repairs to the hull

In our pre-purchase survey Tom Keeling recommended the following:-

    1. The transom edge where the rudder makes contact, has minor notching occurring. This should be repaired at this time (A)
    2. The sacrificial wear edge should be reinforced to the aft shoulders where an area of around 1m has reduced profile through wear (A)
    3. There were deeper corrosion pits to the forward aspects of the swim plating, approximately 7 per side that should be welded up at this time (A)
Hull welding repairs
Small patches welded to added to repair corrosion
Hull welding repairs
The seam welded
Hull welding repairs
More small patches welded to add to repair corrosion

The survey and our report

Having not owned a narrow boat before, we did have a small boat on the Thames at Henley, but that is a long time ago and a very different story, we asked Black Prince to recommend a company for our boat survey.

They passed our details on to Tom Keeling at Small Craft Services Ltd who emailed me and we arranged to chat on the phone. I was impressed with how Tom described the survey process, so we ask Tom to proceed with our pre-sale survey.

While Tom was recommended by Black Prince, it is very clear that he is working for us, his reputation is based making sure he finds what needs doing.

Tom arranged with Black Prince to come to Stoke Prior to survey the boat on 3rd February 2021 and we received his report a few days later.

Small Craft Services Survey Report
Small Craft Services Survey Report

The report starts with a boiler plate section that covers the scope of the survey and what we should expect to see on the following pages, it then describes the boats construction and thickness of the steel used as a baseline for the later test results.

The general condition of the metal work is described and explained, followed by the results of the Ultrasonic measurement of the thickness of each part show the range of measurements found.

Area Tested Ultrasonia Results (mm)
Cabin Side 4.0
Bulkheads 4.0
Hull Sides 5.8-5.9
Counter Plate 9.5-9.9
Base Plates 9.1-9.8
Transom 5.8
Swim 5.9
The report finishes with the Conclusion that outlines all the recommendations from the survey:-

“Floydtilla remains in a condition considered usual for a craft of this type, builder, use and year. There are recommendations detailed throughout the report and highlighted below which should be followed, as well as establishing a good programme of on-going maintenance.

It is known that the vendor will correct known faults prior to the completion of sale. If any further guidance is required please do not hesitate to contact the surveyor. Recommendations

  1. The craft should be re-blacked at this time (A)

    Long-term, you are advised to follow the advice given regarding sand-blasting and epoxy coating (or similar) (A)

  2. The transom edge where the rudder makes contact, has minor notching occurring. This should be repaired at this time (A)

  3. The sacrificial wear edge should be reinforced to the aft shoulders where an area of around 1m has reduced profile through wear (A)

  4. There were deeper corrosion pits to the forward aspects of the swim plating, approximately 7 per side that should be welded up at this time (A)

  5. The new aft anodes should be fitted closer to the stern gear to provide better protection with the existing anodes remaining in situ (A)

  6. The propeller is damaged and should be dressed (A)

  7. There was some play apparent in the stern tube bearing at the time of survey; this should be further investigated and the worn or damaged components replaced (P)

  8. Descale and repaint the weedhatch, including the trunk faces and seal faces. Replace the seal (A)

  9. The LPG locker base should be descaled and repainted at this time (A)”

The (A) at the end of each recommendation mean these are advisory and should be monitored or address as part of an on-going maintenance schedule.

We also received a short form of the survey that we could send to Black Prince, all of which they happily agreed would be done.
A couple of days after the report arrived Tom call us to discuss what he had found and made sure we understood, he was very complimentary about our choice of boat.
One of recommendations made in the report that we decided to put off until we understand more and can visit the suppliers, is to have the hull sandblasted and epoxy coated. We think this is a very good idea and in a couple of years when we next need to reblack the hull we will revisit this and look at our options.

The price of this pre-purchase survey was £395 Inc VAT which seemed like great value to us. It does give you a good feeling about your purchase and makes sure there are likely to be less surprises in the near future.

We will be working on a maintance schedule for when we finally take delivery, being an X-Hire boat the engine will have a high hours count, but should have been well maintained.